[Floppertalk] Problems with INSTALL - Hand while reading in t he Vetor-table from the Install-Diskette

jleyda floppertalk@oldskool.org
Thu, 6 Nov 2003 07:53:56 -0700


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Hi Bernhard,
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Your problem seems to be fairly common, as the last 2 people that I've =
helped have complained about the same thing.
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What install is trying to do when it hangs is restore the floppy disk =
back to its formatted state so you can use it later without having to =
re-format it a second time.  Basically, install.com is trying to be =
nice.  I'm going to delete that feature.  ;)
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Of all the machines that I've tested flopper on, I have never run =
across this problem, but it does appear to be common enough to warrant =
a change in the code.=20
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As to your questions:
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1. The vector table is machine specific.  The only way to share vector =
tables from other computers would be if the 2 computers were exactly =
the same, even down to the same BIOS revision.
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2. The vector table is a binary data file, 1024 bytes in size.  You can =
edit them with a hex editor, but there's really no reason to do so.
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Here's a direct link to a new version of install.com
http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip =
<http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip>=20
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Please try this out and see if it works.  If you run "install /2" on =
the command line, install should start up exactly where it hung up =
before.
=20
Once vectable.dat is created, please email to me so I can verify it =
looks like a valid vector table. =20
It would also be a good idea to start out with a known good disk image. =
 Any of the disk images from oldskool.org/pc/flopper should work. =20
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good luck, let us know what happens.
=20
-jeff!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bernhard Lutz [mailto:bernhard.lutz@bentzundbrecht.de]=20
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:03 AM
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org
Subject: [Floppertalk] Problems with INSTALL - Hand while reading in =
the Vetor-table from the Install-Diskette



Hello,

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I=B4m new to this Flopper-Mailings-List,

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and I discovered the following problem yesterday while trying to =
install Flopper with INSTALL

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First I run INSTALL and it asks me to put in a clean, formatted disk. =
OK.

Then I reboot from this disk. OK

After running INSTALL again for creating the Vector-table from the =
diskette,

the INSTALL-programs hanghs with active drive LED on.=20

=20

(tested it twice).

=20

Can anybody give me help, what I can do now, to create the =
Vector-Table-File onto my harddisk.

=20

Is i possible to TRY vector-Table-files from other PCs ?

=20

Ist he Vector-table a clean .TXT-File which can be viewed / edited ?

=20

Regards,

=20

Bernhard


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<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Hi 
Bernhard,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Your 
problem seems to be fairly common, as the last 2 people that I've helped have 
complained about the same thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>What 
install is trying to do when it hangs is restore the floppy disk back to its 
formatted state so you can use it later without having to re-format it a second 
time.&nbsp; Basically, install.com is trying to be nice.&nbsp; I'm going to 
delete that feature.&nbsp; ;)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Of 
all the machines that I've tested flopper on, I have never run across this 
problem, but it does appear to be common enough to warrant a change in the 
code.&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>As 
to your questions:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>1. 
The vector table is machine specific.&nbsp; The only way to share vector tables 
>from other computers would be if the 2 computers were exactly the same, even 
down to the same BIOS revision.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>2. 
The vector table is a binary data file, 1024 bytes in size.&nbsp; You can edit 
them with a hex editor, but there's really no reason to do 
so.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2>Here's a direct link to a new version of install.com</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><A 
href="http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip">http://www.waste.org/~winkles/install.zip</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2>Please try this out and see if it works.&nbsp; If you run "install /2" on 
the command line, install should start up exactly where it hung up 
before.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Once 
vectable.dat is created, please email to me so I can verify it looks like a 
valid vector table.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>It 
would also be a good idea to start out with a known good disk image.&nbsp; Any 
of the disk images from oldskool.org/pc/flopper should work.&nbsp; 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>good 
luck, let us know what happens.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2>-jeff!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444523814-06112003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Bernhard Lutz [mailto:bernhard.lutz@bentzundbrecht.de] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:03 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
floppertalk@oldskool.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Floppertalk] Problems with INSTALL 
- Hand while reading in the Vetor-table from the 
Install-Diskette<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I´m new to this 
  Flopper-Mailings-List,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">and I discovered the following problem yesterday while 
  trying to install Flopper with INSTALL</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">First I run INSTALL and it asks me to put in a clean, 
  formatted disk. OK.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then I reboot from this disk. OK</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">After running INSTALL again for creating the 
  Vector-table from the diskette,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">the INSTALL-programs hanghs with active drive LED on. 
  </SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(tested it twice).</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Can anybody give me help, what I can do now, to create 
  the Vector-Table-File onto my harddisk.</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Is i possible to TRY vector-Table-files from other PCs 
  ?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ist he Vector-table a clean .TXT-File which can be 
  viewed / edited ?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bernhard</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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