[Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?

Joe Musleh floppertalk@oldskool.org
Sun, 29 May 2005 07:42:53 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)


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Jeff,=0D
=0D
Answer to your paragraph #2:=0D
I downloaded the game from this site:=0D
 http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/=0D
Follow these steps please:  After going to this website click on "PC",=0D
then clikc on "Arcade Action", then click on "Games Bb-Bl",=0D
then click on BigTop. There it asks you for your $ !!!=0D
=0D
Do you know of a website where you can download BigTop for free?=0D
I'm not sure, may be I have a corrupt file.  But may be not.=0D
I look forward to your findings.  I hope it works.  Thanks.=0D
-Joe.=0D
 =0D
-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: jleyda@micron.com=0D
Date: 05/26/05 16:02:47=0D
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org=0D
Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?=0D
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I'll be trying out MESS with bigtop over the extended weekend here and=0D
I'll let you know if I can get it to work.=0D
I know I've booted up other disk images, so I don't see why bigtop=0D
should be any different.  We'll see.=0D
 =0D
 =0D
I am a bit concerned that you said you purchased Bigtop, yet you only=0D
downloaded a file.=0D
What website did you purchase it from?  You actually paid money to=0D
download the file?=0D
 =0D
 =0D
Back to your other questions, an .IMG file is a diskette image file.  It=0D
contains all the data that is normally stored on a floppy disk, but it's=0D
now just a file that flopper and MESS can use to pretend it is reading=0D
from the floppy drive.=0D
 =0D
As Bill here pointed out, you can take utilities such as winImage which=0D
can read the .IMG file and write the data back onto a diskette.  Flopper=0D
and MESS don't need the actual floppy disk, just the .IMG file, but it's=0D
nice to know that you can always convert an .IMG file back to a real=0D
diskette and use it in an actual old PC. (if you can find one)=0D
 =0D
 =0D
-jeff!=0D
 =0D
 =0D
________________________________=0D
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From: floppertalk-admin@oldskool.org=0D
[mailto:floppertalk-admin@oldskool.org] On Behalf Of MOY, WILLIAM=0D
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:29 AM=0D
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org; Joe Musleh=0D
Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?=0D
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 =0D
Ah Hah!  the .img file is an image file that Winimage will need to=0D
convert to another floppy disk, recreating the original disk's file(s).=0D
It will be best to do this through a PC's hard drive with a blank floppy=0D
disk handy.  --best of luck!!  --Bill=0D
 =0D
 =0D
  -----Original Message-----=0D
From: Joe Musleh [mailto:writejoe@email.com]=0D
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:44 AM=0D
To: floppertalk@oldskool.org=0D
Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?=0D
 =0D
 =0D
Below are answers to your questions:=0D
 =0D
Did MESS do anything?=0D
When I double click on the MESS icon (messgui.exe), the application=0D
opens just fine.=0D
When I double click on BigTop that's under the system IBM PC (I tried=0D
all three of them), I receive this error message: "MESS ENCOUNTERED A=0D
FATAL ERROR: INITIALIZATION ERROR".=0D
 =0D
I mean, did you get a screen that looks like an old computer booting up?=0D
No old computer booting up.=0D
 =0D
Did it try to load your disk image?=0D
Does the question mean: Did MESS try to read bigtop.img?  Yes!=0D
All you have to do is double click on the file.=0D
What did you mean by load?  Does it mean "try to read"?=0D
 =0D
Did you make your own disk image from your floppy disk that you=0D
purchased?  It may be copy protected or corrupt.=0D
I didn't purchase a floppy disk.  I just downloaded the file bigtop.zip=0D
from the website.=0D
What do you mean by disk image?  Is it a 3.5 floppy disk that contains=0D
bigtop.img?=0D
 =0D
You can find an image that is known to work with flopper (and should=0D
therefor work with MESS) here:=0D
 =0D
http://retrograde.trustno1.org/index.html=0D
 =0D
I only have XP at work, and I probably shouldn't be playing games here!=0D
;)=0D
I'll try MESS with the image from the above link on my win2k machine at=0D
home when I get a chance in the next couple days.=0D
I use "MESS GUI", not the "command line"=0D
 =0D
 =0D
Please reply at your convenience.=0D
Thanks again Jeff.=0D
 =0D
-Joe.=0D
 =0D
---------=0D
Morning Jeff,=0D
 =0D
It still did not work.  I wish it did.=0D
I bought BigTop on the 14th and still can not play the game.=0D
I read and followed commands and read and downloaded stuff and read and=0D
=2E.... uh with no luck!=0D
 =0D
Jeff, do you have win xp?  Will you be willing to try the game for me on=0D
your PC?=0D
May be there's something I'm missing that an expert can only find.=0D
 =0D
Or if not, do you know somebody who has win XP who will be willing to=0D
load the game on their PC.=0D
Warning!  The game is highly addictive!  Jeff, I can't thank you enough=0D
for your time.=0D
 =0D
-Joe.=0D
 =0D
 =0D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>Answer to your paragraph&nbsp;#2:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>I downloaded the game from this site:</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<A href=3D"http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/">h=
ttp://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>Follow these steps please:&nbsp; After going t=
o this website click on "PC",</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>then clikc on "Arcade Action", then click on&n=
bsp;"Games Bb-Bl",</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>then&nbsp;click on BigTop. There it asks you f=
or your $ !!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>Do you know&nbsp;of a&nbsp;website&nbsp;where =
you can download BigTop for free?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>I'm not sure, may be I have a corrupt file.&nb=
sp; But may be not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>I look forward to your findings.&nbsp; I hope =
it works.&nbsp; Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DFixedsys>-Joe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3DIncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></D=
IV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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ailto:jleyda@micron.com">jleyda@micron.com</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 05/26/05 16:=
02:47</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> RE: [Flop=
pertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I'll be trying out MESS with bigtop over the extended weekend here a=
nd</DIV>
<DIV>I'll let you know if I can get it to work.</DIV>
<DIV>I know I've booted up other disk images, so I don't see why bigtop</=
DIV>
<DIV>should be any different.&nbsp;&nbsp;We'll see.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am a bit concerned that you said you purchased Bigtop, yet you onl=
y</DIV>
<DIV>downloaded a file.</DIV>
<DIV>What website did you purchase it from?&nbsp;&nbsp;You actually paid =
money to</DIV>
<DIV>download the file?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Back to your other questions, an .IMG file is a diskette image file.=
&nbsp;&nbsp;It</DIV>
<DIV>contains all the data that is normally stored on a floppy disk, but =
it's</DIV>
<DIV>now just a file that flopper and MESS can use to pretend it is readi=
ng</DIV>
<DIV>from the floppy drive.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As Bill here pointed out, you can take utilities such as winImage wh=
ich</DIV>
<DIV>can read the .IMG file and write the data back onto a diskette.&nbsp=
;&nbsp;Flopper</DIV>
<DIV>and MESS don't need the actual floppy disk, just the .IMG file, but =
it's</DIV>
<DIV>nice to know that you can always convert an .IMG file back to a real=
</DIV>
<DIV>diskette and use it in an actual old PC. (if you can find one)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>-jeff!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>________________________________</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>From: <A href=3D"mailto:floppertalk-admin@oldskool.org">floppertalk-=
admin@oldskool.org</A></DIV>
<DIV>[<A href=3D"mailto:floppertalk-admin@oldskool.org">mailto:floppertal=
k-admin@oldskool.org</A>] On Behalf Of MOY, WILLIAM</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href=3D"mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org;">floppertalk@oldskoo=
l.org;</A> Joe Musleh</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: RE: [Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ah Hah!&nbsp;&nbsp;the .img file is an image file that Winimage will=
 need to</DIV>
<DIV>convert to another floppy disk, recreating the original disk's file(=
s).</DIV>
<DIV>It will be best to do this through a PC's hard drive with a blank fl=
oppy</DIV>
<DIV>disk handy.&nbsp;&nbsp;--best of luck!!&nbsp;&nbsp;--Bill</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp; -----Original Message-----</DIV>
<DIV>From: Joe Musleh [<A href=3D"mailto:writejoe@email.com">mailto:write=
joe@email.com</A>]</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV>To: <A href=3D"mailto:floppertalk@oldskool.org">floppertalk@oldskool=
=2Eorg</A></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Floppertalk] Re: MS-DOS MODE?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Below are answers to your questions:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Did MESS do anything?</DIV>
<DIV>When I double click on the MESS icon (messgui.exe), the application<=
/DIV>
<DIV>opens just fine.</DIV>
<DIV>When I double click on BigTop that's under the system IBM PC (I trie=
d</DIV>
<DIV>all three of them), I receive this error message: "MESS ENCOUNTERED =
A</DIV>
<DIV>FATAL ERROR: INITIALIZATION ERROR".</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I mean, did you get a screen that looks like an old computer booting=
 up?</DIV>
<DIV>No old computer booting up.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Did it try to load your disk image?</DIV>
<DIV>Does the question mean: Did MESS try to read bigtop.img?&nbsp;&nbsp;=
Yes!</DIV>
<DIV>All you have to do is double click on the file.</DIV>
<DIV>What did you mean by load?&nbsp;&nbsp;Does it mean "try to read"?</D=
IV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Did you make your own disk image from your floppy disk that you</DIV=
>
<DIV>purchased?&nbsp;&nbsp;It may be copy protected or corrupt.</DIV>
<DIV>I didn't purchase a floppy disk.&nbsp;&nbsp;I just downloaded the fi=
le bigtop.zip</DIV>
<DIV>from the website.</DIV>
<DIV>What do you mean by disk image?&nbsp;&nbsp;Is it a 3.5 floppy disk t=
hat contains</DIV>
<DIV>bigtop.img?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You can find an image that is known to work with flopper (and should=
</DIV>
<DIV>therefor work with MESS) here:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://retrograde.trustno1.org/index.html">http://retrogr=
ade.trustno1.org/index.html</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I only have XP at work, and I probably shouldn't be playing games he=
re!</DIV>
<DIV>;)</DIV>
<DIV>I'll try MESS with the image from the above link on my win2k machine=
 at</DIV>
<DIV>home when I get a chance in the next couple days.</DIV>
<DIV>I use "MESS GUI", not the "command line"</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Please reply at your convenience.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again Jeff.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>-Joe.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>---------</DIV>
<DIV>Morning Jeff,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It still did not work.&nbsp;&nbsp;I wish it did.</DIV>
<DIV>I bought BigTop on the 14th and still can not play the game.</DIV>
<DIV>I read and followed commands and read and downloaded stuff and read =
and</DIV>
<DIV>..... uh with no luck!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jeff, do you have win xp?&nbsp;&nbsp;Will you be willing to try the =
game for me on</DIV>
<DIV>your PC?</DIV>
<DIV>May be there's something I'm missing that an expert can only find.</=
DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Or if not, do you know somebody who has win XP who will be willing t=
o</DIV>
<DIV>load the game on their PC.</DIV>
<DIV>Warning!&nbsp;&nbsp;The game is highly addictive!&nbsp;&nbsp;Jeff, I=
 can't thank you enough</DIV>
<DIV>for your time.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>-Joe.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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